Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

MIRANDA LONČAR (BiH) She is a weird atheist with a poor memory. By heart she only knows two things: Lord’s prayer and her ex’s number. Neither of them is answering. When she came of age her parents gave her the best contraception a woman can have: feminism. Combined with a certain regard for female mustache. A woman can do anything, they said. So she does everything. She works and cleans and cooks and takes care of twins. All in all, she is massively joyous to be alive and laugh about the good and the bad life brings. Or … she dies. Jokes aside, since she started doing stand up she collected a serious amount of preformances through entire Balkan region and she also performed in London, Budapest and Zurich. In 2014 she appears in „Stand-up Express“ by Comedy Central Extra and in 2017 in „Comedy Klasik Show“ on Klasik TV.

As for Marina Orsag, she's the organiser. Here's her profile pic:

And of course, here's Lloyd's:

LLOYD EVANS (UK)
Lloyd Evans is a Manchester-born writer and filmmaker who has lived in Croatia for 13 years and recently moved to Zagreb. Lloyd has made numerous TV appearances to share his knowledge about Jehovah's Witnesses, a religion he walked away from soon after leaving the UK. Lloyd also has two books and a YouTube channel dedicated to discussing atheism, the Bible and his former religion. Now he is transforming all of that into stand up

I wonder if these feminists know that Lloyd is a regular connoisseur of sex trafficking victims in Croatia and Thailand?

So three feminists who seem to have experience in stand-up plus... Lloyd Evans? Per his bio it looks like he's using his JW activism background as a basis for his routine.

Man is his spot going to suck. I'm sure the audience will just gobble up his Kingdom Hall stories and be on the floor laughing.

Marina and her two real comedians need to know who they are sharing their stage with.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I wouldn't get all caught up in the websites going down as proof he's bleeding badly. Go by the Patronage and him relatively being stuck in neutral for the past few months. Lloyd is a shrewd businessman and had a knack for getting people to send him money for projects that in NO WAY could be used for personal enrichment and were SOLELY used to bring down WT. Also, Tony Robbins has a tonne of resources available on his website that for a "small fee" can be utilised to help YOU enrich YOURSELF!

As Kim stated, Lloyd had no interest in the website. As for the Reluctant Apostate website, it had already served its purpose and probably wasn't really needed to begin with. He's writing two new books according to his Twitter feed and TRA is old light. Besides, he needs to tell his own sordid story about how he betrayed his wife and he would have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids!

The money is just not there in the websites. When he was on here it was always about the website and pestering people to take that bullshit survey. At some point he realised a better business plan was to get his greasy and bloated face onto YouTube, monetise off that and shame people into joining as Patrons when he claimed YT was demonetising him.

His brand is shit and no one is seriously buying those Tibor shirts. What he should do is create special "Litigation" shirts... Like use a Star Wars font and say "May The Litigation Be With You"

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Jabba the Hutt just filed something yesterday.

I swear this guy is so triggered by things said about him on Twitter. He was just talking about suing the Magnificent Seven last week in response to a troll and boom - here’s another submission as if the court already doesn’t know it’s a load of shit.

I would be so honoured if he presented evidence that he was being called Jabba the Hutt on JWN and tried to pin it on Kim.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Which is what make his claim that the WTS "tampered with him" so bizarre - it's not like he ever lived by JW rules.

What he means by this is his juvenile fantasy to bang as many as he could and live the stereotypical hedonistic bachelor lifestyle. He’d have rather written a diary of his sexual escapades of engaging in threesomes and public sex than one about escaping the JWs. He feels that WT’s rules forced him to moderate this into masturbation marathons, cybersexting and visiting prostitutes.

What I noticed in his book was his constant declarations of love for his wife, yet nowhere in there does he explain the why other than two other pioneers wanted her and it became a competition. He doesn’t really speak too much about her personality and what attracted him to her other than her gentle and forgiving nature, always eager to play peacemaker and avoid conflict.

I think he saw a sucker he could manipulate and Lloydsplain all the betrayals away as the actions of a great but flawed man who’s trying his best in the wake of the tragedy of his mum passing. In fact I think he used his mum’s death as a wedge to connect with her regarding the tragic loss of her brother. It’s how manipulators work. Once he got her talking about her brother he immediately switched it to his mum and cue the forced tears.

Later on down the line or possibly when she first caught him he starts into these pity sessions of threatening suicide. The pattern continues until she’s so beat down she doesn’t want to confront him anymore.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Back then they were both JW. so I don't think he was thinking of having sex with as many women

What often gets lost in the wash is the passage in his book where he describes Dijana catching a sext on his phone whilst he was out getting the post. He stated that it wasn’t the first time she had caught him doing this. Knowing his penchant for always admitting to lesser crimes, it’s a safe bet he had carried on several online relationships which did not end when he got married. Nor was it just two times his wife caught him. There is something about that final sext she caught which was way worse than the others that she insisted on bringing the elders into it in order to make it stop. He also sounded a bit bitter towards her in involving the elders and preferred to solve the problem between them which he evidently did every time he got caught.

So this behaviour has been going on ever since they were married in 2007. At some point he graduated from cybersexting to prostitutes. He had also mentioned in the book plans to meet one of his online cybersexting partners sometime before his marriage.

As much as many feel inclined to feel pity for Dijana, it’s important to remember that she had been putting up with his unfaithful behaviour for 14 years (2007 - 2021) and happened to have two children with the man in the middle of all this. At what point does she graduate from surprised pioneer sister to full blown enabler?

We are all adults here and have to deal with the fallout from our bad decisions in life. So does she. What she needs to do is something her husband won’t: find a job and care for her family. Many single women raise two small children and due to her poor decision making in allowing a serial philanderer get away with it and having children with the same person, she finds herself in a bad situation.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I don’t know whether Lloyd doesn’t understand or chooses not to see.

As a reader of his book I’ll opine that both can be true at the same time. This is just how the mind of Lloyd Evans works.

I think he genuinely feels stuck in that marriage when his real fantasy was to bang as many as he could, and now he’s trying to make up for lost time.

As he put it in his livestream, he’s trying to deal with his “fucked up situation” and he feels that Dijana’s limitations as a sexual device for him has sexually frustrated him. Whatever happens after that is completely not his fault.

Since he had admitted to 3-4 years of paying for sex, it probably didn’t immediately raise alarm bells regarding Thailand as he had already normalised the practice in his own head.

The reason why he’s so irritated at Kim and everyone else is because he got caught after the fact and he did not realise how bad of a look that was until pointed out to him. In true vintage Lloyd fashion, he’s pushing back on that as hard as he can without ever stopping to reflect on his actions, the Thailand sex trafficking angle and is working non-stop to save what has become his business.

I think he understands it now, and is intentionally choosing not to see.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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he is still an incredibly useful resource for the community,

Bullshit. He’s a known liar, cyber bully and is currently suing other exJWs for merely repeating what he said on his livestream. Oh and he happened to use exploited sex workers in a highly trafficked country. He doesn’t belong anywhere near exJW activism. He’s a liability and is easy pickings for WT to discredit should it ever come to it. When Stephen Lett could take you apart in a rebuttal, you have problems.

This video by Wally is a prime example of why you don’t want a LIAR to represent you.

https://youtu.be/MRHpMODsh0E

If he is lying about deleting a fucking comment what else is he lying about? The age of the Thai sex workers? What else has he done that he did not happen to admit to his co-workers? I don’t want to find out.

I’m afraid you fell hook line and sinker for Lloyd’s talking points. Don’t feel bad because he’s been using the logical fallacy of “if you attack me then you are giving WT the victory” for a decade now.

Why is it that Lloyd loyalists like Kim Silvio, Mark O’Donnell and Javier Ortiz have all denounced him and refused to work with him anymore? Look at the facts and not up Lloyd’s asshole.

and I'm sure has helped thousands find the truth about the truth.

Well fuck it, that changes everything. Prince Andrew has helped a lot of people through his charitable works. Let’s bring him back.

Even if you have issue with his infidelity, or that he makes a living off the videos

Seriously, do some research about the sex trafficking problem in Thailand and understand that Lloyd fed into that system and made the traffickers richer whilst victimising young women. THESE WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO BE DOING THIS AND ARE ESSENTIALLY SLAVES.

https://theexodusroad.com/human-trafficking-in-thailand/

Lloyd didn’t give a fuck about any of this and actually proposed to his wife that he sees prostitutes regularly in exchange for him to stop seeking women to date.

Get out of here with this shit and kindly fuck off.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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He was discussing his income when trying to shoo off allegations his Patreon monies were funding his Thai sex holiday. He mentioned Google ad revenue - an obvious allusion to his website.

In the earlier days of JW Survey he had many guest columnists who wrote for free whilst he both collected donations to run the website (which were solicited on the site) and collected Google ad revenue. Eventually he turned JWS over to Covert Fade as chief editor, O’Donnell as a staff writer, and himself as Senior Editor. At the time he expressed his plan that he step away while CF and O’Donnell did the work. No compensation was offered nor was it given. He pocketed the money.

Big mistake. Can’t say for sure but perhaps if he had sweetened the pot for Covert Fade, he might have found a path forward as a paid activist and had not eventually resigned. Same goes for O’Donnell. At some point Mark just stopped contributing and he made a point of saying in his announcement that he never was paid for anything JW Watch related.

He enabled neither of them, pocketed the money and expected them to produce content he could make money off of.

The site was dead long before Kim’s announcement. Since then there has been no effort on his part to either recruit new contributors or start contributing himself.

The hosting fees simply outweighed the money he was pulling in. Wouldn’t surprise me if the site is done for now, with him planning on relaunching it if the numbers for him get better.

Follow the money.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Until now I assumed that the remaining Patreons were somehow supportive of his actions, but is it possible that many of them are still in the dark?

I think many of them are. Check out this reply from ThreadWarrior.

Interesting that JW Watch is suspended. I know that he set up JWSurvey with the help of John Hoyle whom he met on this forum. Hoyle hosted and paid for it for many years and I heard something from Jabba the Hutt about him taking hosting over a few years ago. He could have missed a payment, broken his terms of service or simply let it expire. It was a dead site with the last article posted by Mark O’Donnell in the summer of 2021. He also posted his official response to Kim there about retaining legal counsel.